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Utahns for Liberty of Utah County

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I apologize to everyone, it took me a couple of days to add this page.

On Saturday I filled in for Linda Strasburg.  My guests were Lowell Nelson and David Garber from Utahns for Liberty of Utah County.  I first met Lowell and David in September of 2007 when I joined a Ron Paul meetup group started by David.

On the show David gives us a background on how he started the meetup group, and became involved in the Ron Paul movement — now known as Campaign for Liberty.

Lowell, who is an excellent person to work with, gave us a summary of how the political system works and how each and everyone of us can get involved to make a difference.

We also stressed people from different political backgrounds and affiliations have all come together to support the Campaign for Liberty to defend the Constitution.

Cathy from Herriman called in and brought up Tom Drashyl who had appeared as a guest on the Gayle Ruzika  show.  This set me off on a tangent over my concerns over Barack Obama “Birth Certificate Issue.”

I stated in my opinion, it’s a red herring.  What I mean by that is people’s attention to is being diverted to an issue that probably isn’t even a real issue.  You can go to FactCheck.org to see high resolution closeup pictures of Barack Obama’s Birth certificate.

I believe the “Birth Certificate Issue” obscures really damming issues related to Barack Obama.   The political pundits tell people “Obama is moving to the center” when actually he is just showing he is corrupted and corruptible.  Sadly people let political pundits think for them.  They frame people’s perspective, and the majority go along with it.

I should stress these following points about Barack Obama are really important reasons why we need to clean out Congress.  Obama is not going to restore the Constitution, and neither is Orrin Hatch or Robert Bennett.  They helped trash it with the Patriot Act in the first place.

First Obama did not run on a platform of restoring the Constitution by repealing The Patriot Act.  Barack Obama voted for the Reauthorization of the Patriot Act.

Barack Obama voted for the Foreign Inteligence Servailence Act (FISA) after he promised everyone he would vote against the bill.

The New York Times reported on February 3rd 2008: Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate.

When I went back and look at this article, I believe it’s even worse than what I reported on the air:

Mr. Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was “the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.”

“I just did that last year,” he said, to murmurs of approval.

A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks.

Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama’s comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate.

“Senator Obama’s staff was sending us copies of the bill to review, and we could see it weakening with each successive draft,” said Joe Cosgrove, a park district director in Will County, Ill., where low-level radioactive runoff had turned up in groundwater. “The teeth were just taken out of it.”

The history of the bill shows Mr. Obama navigating a home-state controversy that pitted two important constituencies against each other and tested his skills as a legislative infighter. On one side were neighbors of several nuclear plants upset that low-level radioactive leaks had gone unreported for years; on the other was Exelon, the country’s largest nuclear plant operator and one of Mr. Obama’s largest sources of campaign money.

Since 2003, executives and employees of Exelon, which is based in Illinois, have contributed at least $227,000 to Mr. Obama’s campaigns for the United States Senate and for president. Two top Exelon officials, Frank M. Clark, executive vice president, and John W. Rogers Jr., a director, are among his largest fund-raisers.

The history of the bill shows Mr. Obama navigating a home-state controversy that pitted two important constituencies against each other and tested his skills as a legislative infighter. On one side were neighbors of several nuclear plants upset that low-level radioactive leaks had gone unreported for years; on the other was Exelon, the country’s largest nuclear plant operator and one of Mr. Obama’s largest sources of campaign money.

Barack Obama voted for the Wall Street Bailouts just as Robert Bennett and Orrin Hatch did.

It’s not hard to see why Obama supported the Bailouts either.  According to Opensecrets.org, who collects publicly available FEC information and analyzes it, here are Barack Obama’s top ten (10) contributors:

Contributor Total
University of California $1,074,898
Goldman Sachs $936,757
Harvard University $769,300
Microsoft Corp $717,858
Google Inc $710,649
JPMorgan Chase & Co $650,510
Citigroup Inc $611,216
University of Chicago $561,709
National Amusements Inc $536,854
Skadden, Arps et al $527,495
Sidley Austin LLP $525,945
Time Warner $508,348
Stanford University $485,199
Wilmerhale Llp $471,229
UBS AG $470,245
Kirkland & Ellis $451,655
Morgan Stanley $448,752
Columbia University $431,516
Latham & Watkins $427,574
IBM Corp $424,246


This is of great concern to me because I believe people have to much trust in Obama.  They are letting their guard down, and that’s dangerous.

Mohammad I almost forgot.  This one is just for you, for all the times you have called in saying what a great guy Obama is.  I would like to ask you watch and listen to Obama’s speech to AIPAC (American Israeli Political Action Committee).

This is an excellent article from John Pilger everyone should read Beware of Obama’s Groundhog Day.



Charles called in after I ran through this list, and stated there was probably a minimum leak threshold with the Obama letting companies off the hook for nuclear leaks.  I confess that is probably true, but the New York Times article does not give the exact mounts.  Charles stated he has been concerned about the push for a one world government for years.

If anyone thinks Charles is up in the night, watch this video.


[update added 1/7/2009] I forgot to add Obama lied to Iowa voters, or the Canadian Ambassador Michael Wilson over NFTA.  Take your pick.


This gets us back to why it’s so important for people to stay politically active, and become politically active.

The Utahns for Liberty of Utah County meetup group does not charge any sort of membership fees.  All that is required is for you to go to the web sight and sign up.  It’s very helpful if you attend a meeting when one is scheduled.  Utahns for Liberty of Utah County works with many other groups in Utah when the issue is liberty related.  This group is a great way to stay in touch with whats going on, and network within all of the other state groups.

Rhonda Lee called in to state she believes the system is rigged so there’s no point in getting involved.  Lowell makes the point that is rare.  Usually the reason we fail is because citizens fail to get involved.

Lowell and I could not agree more on this points.  Conspiracy should not be used as a scape goat.  We can’t use conspiracy as an excuse to do nothing.

There’s a lesson I learned from a video called Where There’s a Will There’s an A+:

If you fail to try, you are guaranteed to lose.  Real failure is failing to take action.  Even if you try at to do something and don’t succeed, you should at least be proud of yourself for giving it your best shot.


When I joined this meetup group, I learned how the caucus system worked, and I have been able to pass this information on to others like Mark Maxon.  I never would have been able to become well informed on the issue if it wasn’t for David Garber, Lowell Nelson, and Mike Ridgway who provided additional information like this UEA training site Caucus101.

Utahns for Liberty of Utah County will be participating in an End The Fed rally planning meeting on 1/8/2009, as well as many other events.  Please check the calendar and join us.

http://www.meetup.com/CFL-Provo/calendar

There will also be more caucus training sessions as we get closer caucus season.

5 comments to Utahns for Liberty of Utah County

  • Ted

    CHALLENGE (with answer), CAN ANYONE PROVE THIS WRONG?:–

    1. Constitution Article II requires USA President to be “natural born citizen”.

    2. BHO’s website admits his dad was Kenyan/British, not American, citizen when BHO was born.

    3. BHO is therefore not a “natural born citizen” (irrespective of Hawaiian birth or whether he may be a 14th Amendment “citizen” of USA) — confirmed in the Senate’s own McCain qualification resolution (that both parents must be citizens of USA) co-authored by BHO.

    4. Supreme Court has already docketed two upcoming conferences, 1/9/09 and 1/16/09 — between dates Congress counts electoral votes (1/8/09) and Presidential inauguration (1/20/09) — to address Berg Case and fashion relief on BHO’s eligibility to be President.

    5. Since the fact of BHO’s dad being Kenyan/British not in dispute, Supreme Court rules on Summary Judgment to enjoin BHO’s inauguration as President.

    6. Therefore, BHO is not inaugurated as President.

    7. Vice President Elect Biden is inaugurated Acting President under the 20th Amendment to serve until new President is determined — the procedure for which determination to be set out by Congress and/or the Supreme Court so long as in conformance with the Constitution.

    ANSWER TO ABOVE CHALLENGE

    IF, when counting the electoral votes, Congress WERE TO find by 1/8/09 that Obama — not being an Article II “natural born citizen” (father Kenyan/British, not American) — fails to qualify as President, Biden would become the full fledged President under 3 USC 19 (free to pick his own VP such as Hillary) AND THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR DEFERRAL TO THE SUPREME COURT to enjoin Obama’s inauguration relegating Biden to being merely Acting President under the 20th Amendment until a new President were duly determined.

  • Poppy

    http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

    Based on this Hawaiian document Barack Obama is considered by Hawaii to be a Natural Born Citizen, so it’s natural to assume he thinks he’s a natural born citizen. No one could hold that against him and they don’t.

    People can fight this until they’re blue in the face, but to the left and center the people pushing this issue are just being vindictive.

    There’s all this energy being wasted on this.

    The Birth Certificate Claim, if it did come out to be true would not necessarily prove to anyone Obama is a bad guy. He has this birth certificate so why wouldn’t he think he’s a citizen. His mother’s a US Citizen.
    http://lsolum.typepad.com/legaltheory/2008/02/mccain-natural.html

    All of the links I’ve Posted above prove Barack Obama is lying through his teeth. They prove he’s extremely dishonest. The links I’ve provided show he’s taken money from people he said he wasn’t taking money from, and then has done special favors for them.

    People to the left and center don’t give a damn about the Birth Certificate issue, but they would care about the issues I have listed if they knew about them.

    That’s why I say it’s a red herring. The really bad stuff is being obscured by the Birth Certificate Issue. People are going off on a wild goose chase, when all the information they need to show something is really wrong, is write here.

  • Ted

    The Hawaiian Birth Certificate issue is a red herring.

    It wouldn’t matter if Obama were born in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House, he is not eligible to be President since he is not a Constitutional Article II natural born citizen as he himself delcares on his website that his dad was Kenyan/British, not American, citizen when he was born.

    He may (or may not) be a full American citizen as under the 14th Amendment of the Constitution; but citizen is NOT the same as the unique requirement set by the Constitution’s framers, that being natural born citizen, in order to be President of the US.

    Case closed.
    The US Supreme Court will not let him pass. No way!

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  • I sure hope that he is only a one term president. I don’t think we can survive 8 years of his policies.

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