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Are Liberals Nazis or Fascists?

On 8/19/2009 at a town hall meeting Barney Frank was accused of being a Nazi for supporting a single payer insurance option.  Barack Obama was also accused of being a Nazi.  Frank has been criticized in the past for receiving money from Fanie Mae and Freddie Mac and aiding in their bailout, although Robert Bennett received more and assisted as well.



Talk radio hosts like Glenn Back have been promoting the idea liberals are fascists.



I would like to pose the question, “what is an actual fascist?”

Author Milton Mayer wrote They Thought They Were Free: The Germans, 1933-45 where he defined 14 points that define fascism:

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism
5. Rampant sexism
6. A controlled mass media
7. Obsession with national security
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together
9. Power of corporations protected
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts
12. Obsession with crime and punishment
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption
14. Fraudulent Elections

Which of the above points identifies liberals?

Check Baldwin quoted former Nazi Martin Niemöller (14 January 18926 March 1984):

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn’t a Jew.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

Which of the above points identifies liberals?  Why was Hitler rounding up Social Democrats?

Hitler rounded up people who were gay.  Don’t we all know liberals are friends with gay people?  This clip from the documentary The Corporation shows “Homosexual” and “Communist” were listed on the punch cards used to track people on their way to concentration camps.  Those punch cards were provided by IBM.



In the below video Bill Moyers Journal examines hate speech on the airwaves that pushed one unemployed man to the breaking point.  The man blamed Democrats for being unemployed and “destroying the country.”  Since he couldn’t shoot a Democrat in power, he said he wanted to shoot one of the people who elect them.

Bill Moyers Journal points out talk radio aided in the genocide that took place in Rwanda.  Hutu radio hosts called Tootsies “cockroaches.”  People were dehumanized until it was “okay to kill them.”  “They were just cockroaches.”  “They were evil.”  They didn’t deserve to live.

Bill Moyers neglects to mention similar behavior took place in Nazi Germany in order to psych the German people out enough to kill.



The above report points out talk radio hosts are telling people the New York Times is a liberal publication.  As former Reagan economist Paul Craig Roberts pointed out the New York Times assisted the Bush administration in convincing U.S. citizens an invasion of Iraq was necessary:

The American print and TV media have never been very good. These days they are horrible. If people intend to be informed, they must turn to foreign news broadcasts, to Internet sites, to foreign newspapers available on the Internet, or to alternative newspapers that are springing up in various cities. A person who sits in front of Murdoch’s Fox “News” or CNN or who reads the New York Times is simply being brainwashed with propaganda.

Before conservatives nod their heads in agreement, I’m not referring to “the liberal media.” I mean the propaganda that issues from the US government and the Israel Lobby.

It was neoconservative Bush regime propaganda fed to America through Judith Miller and the New York Times and through Murdoch’s Fox “News” that convinced Americans that they were in danger from a small secular Arab country half way around the globe called Iraq. It was the American media that convinced Americans that getting rid of dangerous “weapons of mass destruction,” weapons that did not exist in Iraq, would be a cakewalk paid for by Iraqi oil revenues.

It is the same propagandistic American print and TV media that have rationalized Bush’s illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan based on seven years of lies and deception.

It is Corporate America who supports talk radio.  Here are a couple of example of how they benefit.

Food, Inc points out the food industry started running ads in Mexico to recruit poor workers after NAFTA flooded Mexico with low cost corn.  NAFTA put 1.3 million Mexican farmers out of business.   Does Corporate America want you to hold them accountable, or is it better to pit people against each other?

Paul Craig Roberts (again a former Reagan economist) wrote an article titled Doomed by the Myths of Free Trade – How the Economy was Lost, which basically identifies how corporate America has outsourced the country.  Corporate America is going to be a lot better off if people are pitted against each other over job and wage loss rather than corporate America.

Can people see why no one has given Paul Craig Roberts his own radio talk show.  The Baltimore Chronicle describes Roberts as “The Father of Reaganomics.”  I’m sure people would love to hear what Paul Craig Roberts has to say, and he would attract a large listening audience.  This isn’t about ratings its about people listening to what they are supposed to be listening to.


More Information:

The documentary Manufacturing Consent was made in Canada based on Noam Chomsky’s book Manufacturing Consent .  As the video explains, the title came from a book by Walter Lippmann.



Also see: Orwell Rolls in his Grave

Utahns for Liberty of Utah County

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I apologize to everyone, it took me a couple of days to add this page.

On Saturday I filled in for Linda Strasburg.  My guests were Lowell Nelson and David Garber from Utahns for Liberty of Utah County.  I first met Lowell and David in September of 2007 when I joined a Ron Paul meetup group started by David.

On the show David gives us a background on how he started the meetup group, and became involved in the Ron Paul movement — now known as Campaign for Liberty.

Lowell, who is an excellent person to work with, gave us a summary of how the political system works and how each and everyone of us can get involved to make a difference.

We also stressed people from different political backgrounds and affiliations have all come together to support the Campaign for Liberty to defend the Constitution.

Cathy from Herriman called in and brought up Tom Drashyl who had appeared as a guest on the Gayle Ruzika  show.  This set me off on a tangent over my concerns over Barack Obama “Birth Certificate Issue.”

I stated in my opinion, it’s a red herring.  What I mean by that is people’s attention to is being diverted to an issue that probably isn’t even a real issue.  You can go to FactCheck.org to see high resolution closeup pictures of Barack Obama’s Birth certificate.

I believe the “Birth Certificate Issue” obscures really damming issues related to Barack Obama.   The political pundits tell people “Obama is moving to the center” when actually he is just showing he is corrupted and corruptible.  Sadly people let political pundits think for them.  They frame people’s perspective, and the majority go along with it.

I should stress these following points about Barack Obama are really important reasons why we need to clean out Congress.  Obama is not going to restore the Constitution, and neither is Orrin Hatch or Robert Bennett.  They helped trash it with the Patriot Act in the first place.

First Obama did not run on a platform of restoring the Constitution by repealing The Patriot Act.  Barack Obama voted for the Reauthorization of the Patriot Act.

Barack Obama voted for the Foreign Inteligence Servailence Act (FISA) after he promised everyone he would vote against the bill.

The New York Times reported on February 3rd 2008: Nuclear Leaks and Response Tested Obama in Senate.

When I went back and look at this article, I believe it’s even worse than what I reported on the air:

Mr. Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was “the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.”

“I just did that last year,” he said, to murmurs of approval.

A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks.

Those revisions propelled the bill through a crucial committee. But, contrary to Mr. Obama’s comments in Iowa, it ultimately died amid parliamentary wrangling in the full Senate.

“Senator Obama’s staff was sending us copies of the bill to review, and we could see it weakening with each successive draft,” said Joe Cosgrove, a park district director in Will County, Ill., where low-level radioactive runoff had turned up in groundwater. “The teeth were just taken out of it.”

The history of the bill shows Mr. Obama navigating a home-state controversy that pitted two important constituencies against each other and tested his skills as a legislative infighter. On one side were neighbors of several nuclear plants upset that low-level radioactive leaks had gone unreported for years; on the other was Exelon, the country’s largest nuclear plant operator and one of Mr. Obama’s largest sources of campaign money.

Since 2003, executives and employees of Exelon, which is based in Illinois, have contributed at least $227,000 to Mr. Obama’s campaigns for the United States Senate and for president. Two top Exelon officials, Frank M. Clark, executive vice president, and John W. Rogers Jr., a director, are among his largest fund-raisers.

The history of the bill shows Mr. Obama navigating a home-state controversy that pitted two important constituencies against each other and tested his skills as a legislative infighter. On one side were neighbors of several nuclear plants upset that low-level radioactive leaks had gone unreported for years; on the other was Exelon, the country’s largest nuclear plant operator and one of Mr. Obama’s largest sources of campaign money.

Barack Obama voted for the Wall Street Bailouts just as Robert Bennett and Orrin Hatch did.

It’s not hard to see why Obama supported the Bailouts either.  According to Opensecrets.org, who collects publicly available FEC information and analyzes it, here are Barack Obama’s top ten (10) contributors:

Contributor Total
University of California $1,074,898
Goldman Sachs $936,757
Harvard University $769,300
Microsoft Corp $717,858
Google Inc $710,649
JPMorgan Chase & Co $650,510
Citigroup Inc $611,216
University of Chicago $561,709
National Amusements Inc $536,854
Skadden, Arps et al $527,495
Sidley Austin LLP $525,945
Time Warner $508,348
Stanford University $485,199
Wilmerhale Llp $471,229
UBS AG $470,245
Kirkland & Ellis $451,655
Morgan Stanley $448,752
Columbia University $431,516
Latham & Watkins $427,574
IBM Corp $424,246


This is of great concern to me because I believe people have to much trust in Obama.  They are letting their guard down, and that’s dangerous.

Mohammad I almost forgot.  This one is just for you, for all the times you have called in saying what a great guy Obama is.  I would like to ask you watch and listen to Obama’s speech to AIPAC (American Israeli Political Action Committee).

This is an excellent article from John Pilger everyone should read Beware of Obama’s Groundhog Day.



Charles called in after I ran through this list, and stated there was probably a minimum leak threshold with the Obama letting companies off the hook for nuclear leaks.  I confess that is probably true, but the New York Times article does not give the exact mounts.  Charles stated he has been concerned about the push for a one world government for years.

If anyone thinks Charles is up in the night, watch this video.


[update added 1/7/2009] I forgot to add Obama lied to Iowa voters, or the Canadian Ambassador Michael Wilson over NFTA.  Take your pick.


This gets us back to why it’s so important for people to stay politically active, and become politically active.

The Utahns for Liberty of Utah County meetup group does not charge any sort of membership fees.  All that is required is for you to go to the web sight and sign up.  It’s very helpful if you attend a meeting when one is scheduled.  Utahns for Liberty of Utah County works with many other groups in Utah when the issue is liberty related.  This group is a great way to stay in touch with whats going on, and network within all of the other state groups.

Rhonda Lee called in to state she believes the system is rigged so there’s no point in getting involved.  Lowell makes the point that is rare.  Usually the reason we fail is because citizens fail to get involved.

Lowell and I could not agree more on this points.  Conspiracy should not be used as a scape goat.  We can’t use conspiracy as an excuse to do nothing.

There’s a lesson I learned from a video called Where There’s a Will There’s an A+:

If you fail to try, you are guaranteed to lose.  Real failure is failing to take action.  Even if you try at to do something and don’t succeed, you should at least be proud of yourself for giving it your best shot.


When I joined this meetup group, I learned how the caucus system worked, and I have been able to pass this information on to others like Mark Maxon.  I never would have been able to become well informed on the issue if it wasn’t for David Garber, Lowell Nelson, and Mike Ridgway who provided additional information like this UEA training site Caucus101.

Utahns for Liberty of Utah County will be participating in an End The Fed rally planning meeting on 1/8/2009, as well as many other events.  Please check the calendar and join us.

http://www.meetup.com/CFL-Provo/calendar

There will also be more caucus training sessions as we get closer caucus season.